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Hindu Sikh & Jain response to the Caste Legislation

 

Dr Jasdev Singh Rai

(British Sikh Consultative Forum)

&

Shr Satish K Sharma, General Secretary, 

(National Council of Hindu Temples UK)

 

present the conclusions of their three years of research into the mischievous

Lord Harris Caste Amendment

 

 

 

Hindu Sikhs & Jains - United against Colonial attitude behind the

"anti multi faith" Lord Harries Caste Amendment

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr Swamy Blesses Hindu Sikh Unity with Visit to London Gurudwara

Dr Subramanian Swamy takes UK by Storm

Hindus come of "Political" Age in the UK

 

One of the most high profile Indian politicians, anti-Corruption crusader come champion of the people, Dr Subramanian Swamy, arrived in London flying on the winds of great expectations and anticipation. A series of events organised by the National Council of Hindu Temples (NCHTUK) called ‘Dharma Rising’, gave oxygen to the masses to engage in productive, positive debate reflecting upon issues ranging from interfaith dialogue, relationships between India and the UK, the British General Election and the Indian Diaspora.

The series of events took place at venues from London, Slough and Birmingham. In a dramatic gesture of goodwill between the Hindu and Sikh community, Dr Swamy became the first Indian politician to be welcomed in any Gurdwara in the West since 1984. This was a truly inspirational coming together of the Dharmic communities since the Congress governments' "Operation Blue Star" storming of the Sri Harmandar Sahib, also known as the ‘Golden Temple’.

Commenting on this momentous event one of the Sikh community leaders Jasdev Singh said, ‘It was an honour and a privilege to be the conduit to foster this incredible bridging dialogue between the British Hindu and Sikh communities. The discussions were frank and honest. Dr Swamy showed why he is known as a man of principle. He understood the concerns of the Sikh community and gave undertakings to take the matter up directly with the Indian Government. It was an icebreaker and in one meeting Dr Swamy and the leaders of the Sikh Gurdwaras and Hindu Temples were able to achieve more progress than has happened in the past 30 years’.

Satish K Sharma the General Secretary of the NCHTUK added, ‘The events of 1984 have been traumatic for the people of India and all Dharmic faith communities, with completely innocent Hindu and Sikh lives lost. In what can be described as a gesture of fostering peace and harmony by the Sikh community in the UK, the visit of Dr Swamy to the Hounslow Gurudwara may well become the very foundation of moving forward on seeking justice and reparations for what took place in 1984. I applaud the British Sikh community for their openness and for taking this step no matter how hard, for the very welfare and well being of all Dharmic communities’.

The "Dharma Rising" events kicked off on 4th April at the Sant Nirankari Bhavan Hall in Wednesbury. Dr Swamy was joined by Dr Gautam Sen a leading commentator on economics and international affairs, and ably supported by Dr Koenraad Elst a leading international Orientalist.

Shri Rajiv Malhotra, bestselling author of Breaking India, Being Different and Indra's Net, joined the event live from the USA via video conferencing to great excitement by the audience.

The main event was on 5th April at the Dhamecha Hall in Harrow which was followed by the very first ‘Dharma Rakshak Awards’ VIP dinner. The ‘Dharma Rakshak’ awards are conferred on those individuals who courageously stand for human rights above all other rights, often facing challenges from within their own communities, and who also fearlessly confront their own prejudices and beliefs. The first recipients of these prestigious awards are:

Bob Blackman MP: Conservative British Politician who championed Hindu and Kashmiri issues fearlessly and is a confirmed friend of India.

Dr Sheikh Muhammad A Husseini: for fearless Religious Debate.

Dr Koenraad Elst: for excellence in Academic research.

Hindu Human Rights Team: for grassroots Activism in the UK.

Kapil Dudakia: for robust socio-political commentary in the Media.


The British Hindu Manifesto was also launched in collaboration with the Hindu Forum of Britain (HFB) and other leading organisations. In discussions with Dr Swamy, the Sikh community and the Hindu community, it became clear that the issue of the 'Caste Legislation’ will become the dividing line between the political parties in the coming elections. It was unanimously agreed by all taking part that the Caste legislation must be repealed and that every Party leader will be asked to confirm their position. The Hindu, Sikh & Jain communities denounce the legislation as divisive and regressive. The legislation is ill-conceived and not established in fact, sound research or evidence. It’s bad law, orchestrated and dogmatically pursued by the Labour Party. Trupti Patel the President of the HFB said ‘The NCHTUK have to be commended for this series of very informative and enlightening events. It has given impetus to the launch of the British Hindu Manifesto, in collaboration with the NCHT. The manifesto details ten points and we will ask every Party leader to confirm their exact positions. The Hindu community have come of age; they will make a difference in GE2015’.

In what was described as a scintillating, robust and informative presentation, Kapil Dudakia a lead Columnist and commentator on political issues talked about the ‘Political Hindu’. He left the audience in no doubt as the fundamentals of what affects the Hindu community were brought into sharp focus. Commenting after his talk he said, ‘It’s vitally important that the often double speak of the politician is exposed. The Westminster village often ignores the voters, but they all too often ignore our community completely. I wanted to bring out a few issues to distil fact from fiction with verifiable evidence. I am thrilled that so many in the audience picked up on the issues and one hopes this energy will spread’.

The last word goes to Dr Subramanian Swamy who said "Britain is a country which brings back for me pleasant memories of my six months stay during the Emergency in 1976, and I like to see the mix of cultures, faiths, languages and much much more.  My best wishes to the British Hindu people that they will further integrate into the very fabric of British democratic society.  The British Hindu community in particular has already adjusted in this very well and it is important that their contributions are fully recognised, as their capacity to enhance community cohesion by way of the value system they bring to the table.  I am very happy to be in the UK again and look forward to being back in the future."

For further details :=

Satish K Sharma

General Secretary

Tel:-     0208 123 8272,

Email:-   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Web:-     www.nchtuk.org

Notes:

Dharma:   The concept of Dharma is not yet clear in the British Mind (Hindu or otherwise) and we wish for this to change. The concept of Dharma proposes that there is a natural order for all of life to co-exist which leads to the harmonious evolution of all creatures and all souls. This natural order permits all of life to grow and expand and live ebulliently and ecstatically whilst supporting all of the interconnections of all creatures. The cultural habits of Hindus have developed in accordance with this order and this is why Hindus the world over have no difficulty in integrating, being successful and thriving irrespective of which nation they live in.

Dharma Rakshak:    in the awards context means  ‘Protector of Righteousness and Civic Harmony’

British Hindu Manifesto:     Launched on 5th April 2015. Further details on our website.

Oxford University cancels Dr Swamy And Malhotra Lecture

Oxford University bars

Dr Subramanian Swamy & Rajiv Malhotra -

Cancels lecture on "Indias Economy" & "Revisionist History"

 

The Human Rights Act 1998 incorporates Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights into UK law.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

 

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 ‘We are stunned that a leading British University that should be championing free speech and freedom of thought, has taken such a cowardly decision. We cannot allow the appeasement of extremists to stifle cherished values and I fear this decision will reflect very badly on Oxford University and their much publicised "free rigourous thinking" credentials." Satish K Sharma, General Secretary, National Council of Hindu Temples (UK)

 

Following a series of meetings between prominent and influential members of Oxford University's academic faculty and members of the Oxford India Society, on Friday 20th a decision was taken to cancel the above lecture, citing "logistical and internal issues".  We have asked for further clarification as to the reasons and justification and await clarification. In light of this very significant development, Shri Rajiv Malhotraji who had been battling health issues to ensure his participation at the events, has now bowed to his physicians recommendation not to travel, and will be participating fully in all of the remaining events by live video conference. Dr Subramanian Swamy remains undeterred and unsurprised and will be present and will join the other speakers at the remaining events as planned.  

From this surprising cancellation, effectively banning Dr Swamy and Shri Malhotra from ois 5 smlspeaking at Oxford University, we might reasonably conclude that the faculty of Oxford University, tasked with the responsibility of educating young impressionable minds, are incapable of communicating by personal example, the fundamental need for observance and protection of Human rights, especially the right to Freedom of Speech. A statistical review of who has been barred and who has been welcomed may reveal an uncomfortable correlation and point to a persistent phenomenon concerning the clarity of vision and "discrimination-free" credentials of the senior members of the Oxford Academic Faculty, particularly it would seem when the rights being trampled underfoot are those of "brown skinned Hindus". It must be asked whether we are to conclude that in Oxford, Hindus are most welcome as long as they adhere to and preserve the underlying subliminal "colonial Christian supremacist" ideology and contribute generously to the coffers of "EuroCentric perspective fixated" colleges. The evidence before us may indicate that when this dominant theme and the western world view is challenged by any academic Hindu of stature- unfettered racism and religious discrimination seem to arise and completely obscure the otherwise pristine vision of the principles of "freedom of speech". Is this merely the latest expression of a residual bigoted, deeply anti Hindu strand of the colonial psyche, a psyche which has overseen the destruction of all other indigenous religions and cultures and now appears to have its focus on India and Hindus?

Oxford University's reputation as a bastion of unemotional reasoning coupled with fearless, rigorous academic interrogation has suffered a possibly mortal blow, and as for being the pinnacle of learning and wisdom and guidance on the application of these highest human values in times of turmoil, those Oxford University's faculty members responsible for this decision risk tumbling to join the ranks of closet religious bigots and racists such as Wendy Doniger and her ilk; peddlers of simply old fashioned white supremacist rhetoric masquerading as erudition.Recent persons welcomed to speak or given a platform at Oxford University include Marine Le Pen, Wendy Doniger, Tony Blair of WMD fame, Gerry Adams, David Irving - Holocaust denier, Dr Zakir Naik - Extremist Muslim preacher.

gandhi speak truth oxOnly two weeks ago a statue of Mahatma Gandhi was unveiled in Parliament Square as a celebration of the triumph of the Truth and the power of "Freedom of Speech" over prejudice and racist, colonial oppression and as an act of tacit recognition that the British oppression of the Indian, predominantly Hindu, nation was a gross crime against humanity. The very same Mahatma Gandhi ji stated  "Many People, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth for being correct, for being you. Never apologise for being correct or for being years ahead of your time, If you are right and you know it, speak your mind. Even if you are a minority of one the truth is still the Truth"

It would appear that it may take another 50 years for the Mahatma's message to travel from Parliament Square to the hallucinating spires of Oxford University. Until then - freedom of Speech RIP.... brings back fond memories of the old notices declaring "Hindus, Irish and Dogs - not allowed".

 

All other events will be proceeding as planned!

 

Comments in the petition supporting the Lecture... all of which appear to have fallen upon deaf ears..

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 On a final note......limitspeechchoamsky

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Satishji ( General Secretary) on 07711 245000, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Madhuji (Communications Officer) on 07763 178628, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Hindu "Leadership" Conference - Update

The British Hindu "Leadership" Conference - 11th January 2015

Belgrave Neighbourhood Centre, Leicester

 

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The Belgrave Neighbourhood Centre in Leicester played host to a gathering of the UK's Hindu organisations on Sunday 11th January.

The meeting had been convened as a result of a discussion which occurred immediately after the hugely dissatisfactory IFN AGM. NCHTUK General Secretary Satish K Sharma expressed dismay that the "same old faces" had managed to secure their seats on the Executive without due consideration by the Hindu British Community and that since their effectiveness had been questioned many times in the preceding 12 months, this was unacceptable. This was a sentiment accepted by the other Hindu representatives on the day and Dr Girdhari Bhan agreed to call a meeting of all of the British Hindu leadership to discuss and consider these isssues.

Invitations had been sent to all of the prominent Hindu individuals and organisations and the day saw delegates invited converging upon Leicester from as far as Liverpool and London and we are delighted to report that the day was filled with robust and passionate debate, discussions and decisions. Present were the VHP, the NCHTUK executive, the Hindu Forum of Europe, the National Hindu Students Forum, the Hindu Forum of Britain, the HCUK (recently engaged!) the Nepali Hindu Forum, Prajapati Association, British Hindu Voice/Coalition for Dialogue, Hindu Lawyers Association, Shri Kapil Dudakia, Dr Prakash Shah and other prominent Hindu individuals and organisations.

The agenda is below and details of the minutes of the meetings will no doubt be produced and circulated in due course but the key issues and outcomes of the discussions were the passing of the following important resolutions:

Resolution 1) the Meeting resolved that no sampradaya had the mandate to represent the British Hindu Community on any national body (this was overwhelmingly passed after detailed discussion about for example, the "single Sampradaya bias" in the Hinduism RE Text books which suggested that Sanatan Dharma was merely 400 years old - (the age of the Sampradaya in question) and the recent suggestion by one of the Sampradayas that British Hindus would consider being "compassionately evangelised" by Christian conversionaries !

Resolution 2) the Meeting had no confidence in the existing longstanding Hindu members of the IFN and that they should be either replaced or asked to step down.
Resolution 3) the Meeting had no confidence in the longstanding members of the HCF who it was felt had let the Hindu Community down especially with regard to the Caste issue, and that they should be either replaced or asked to step down immediately.
Resolution 4) the Meeting resolved to support the Yezidi community as members of the Hindu family.

 

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Session I: 11.00 AM – 1.00 PM
1. Welcome and Introductions
2. Evolving an effective ‘Hindu Voice’ – Introduction
3. Organisations and Individuals
a)Develop a common forum to deal with issues
b)Subscribe to a Code of Conduct
c)Public Statements on behalf of British Hindus
d)Mechanisms for nominating Hindus as representatives to various bodies
e)Issues to be taken up: which / when / how
f)How prompt and comprehensive feedback from meetings of these should be given, and to whom Bhojan
 Session II: 2.00 PM – 4.00 PM
4.Current Issues:
a)Role of the Interfaith Network UK
b)Role of the Hindu Christian Forum UK
c)The issue of ‘Caste’ and the Hindus
d)The issue of ‘Religion and Belief Commission UK’
5.Any Other Matter to be discussed
6.Conclusion

Sincere Gratitude was expressed to the hosts and the Karyakarta's for providing refreshing lunch and refreshments in abundance.

Religious Authority & Abuse of Power - Parliamentary Debate

hoc abuse rr nchtAn extraordinary debate took place in the House of Commons on 18th November, on the subject of the abuse of Religious Power. In front of a full Committee Room 12, a panel of Religious leaders representing all traditions (except the Church of England) gathered to demand two things ....
 
The illustrious panel led by Baroness Cox were in complete agreement that Religious Rights MUST be subservient to Human rights and the second point, which found support from both panel members and also from members of the public and invited guests, was that Religious Establishments MUST be independently regulated.


The debate was extraordinary for many reasons but most noticeable was the complete absence of any representative of the Church of England. The Chair and co-ordinator of the debate, Natasha Phillips, as well as individual panel members had been working diligently to find anyone who would be willing to speak on behalf of the Church of England, all without success. Invitations and pleas had been sent to a large number of Anglican Clergy and they either politely declined or having agreed, withdrew as the date of the debate drew closer. Ranging from Peter Baldwin, who after having accepted, withdrew the day before the debate, to a a variety of Bishops and Archdeacons who initially expressed interest and availability, and then sadly were unable to participate.sks hmf abusedebate01  sml


The Panel which included our NCHTUK General Secretary, Shr Satish K Sharma presented reflective, compassionate and fully informed, passionate and positive speeches which covered individual cases of human rights abuses to global and historical abuse of Human Rights by Religious Institutions and Clergy.
 
The audience included many who were the targets of Clergy abuse as well as family members, religious and legal experts, students of Philosophy and lecturers and members of the InterFaith Community as well as members of the general public. Video recordings of the event are being processed and will be posted on this site as they become available but in the meantime here are a few pictures.. and audio recordings of the Panel speakers.

 

 

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  Chair Natasha Phillips, Barrister - "The Archbishop of Cantebury acknowledged the scale of the problem in October this year, noting that child abuse was rampant within the Church of England. Since 2001, the Catholic Church in England and Wales has defrocked 52 priests for sexual abuse, and in between 2003 and 2012, 465 sexual assault claims were made against clergy members, though the actual number of victims involved remains unknown."

 

bcc hmf abusedebate01  sml  Baroness Caroline Cox - "Finally, I hope we will all urge our political establishment to look beyond the powerful circle of self-appointed religious leaders and religious organisations, whose vocal lobbying has created a Britain with parallel quasi-legal systems, and segregated communities."

 

 

 

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  Danny Sullivan, Roman Catholic Church - " The way victimes and survivors were not listened to, not believed was a scandal.... I'm independent but I have no authority over any Bishop..."

 

 

The above two speakers then responded to Questions from the floor

 

 

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  David Greenwood, Switalskis - " The Catholic Church has refused to report abusing Priests to the Police and instead has moved them around within and between countries.  They have been strongly criticised on many fronts by the United Nations Committee for the Rights of the Child this year. The Church of England promised to apologise in July 2013, but no apology was actually issued.  The C of E has engaged with survivor groups and is listening, but has delayed and still refuses to accept survivors groups’ plans for improvement."

 

 

 

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  Sheikh Dr Muhammad Al Husseini - "

This culture of Bullying and unethical behaviour and sexual abuse starts with a culture of religiously motivated entitlement.. combined with a particular narrative of a psychopathic, charming charismatic highly persuasive manipulative religious demagogue type.."

 

 

 

The above two speakers then responded to Questions from the floor

 

 

 jb hmf abusedebate01  sml Bishop Jonathon Blake - "All religious organisations, however large or small, and all individual practitioners should have to be registered and pay a proportional contribution towards the regulatory body. You cannot rely on the fine sounding promises of religious organisations that are scrambling to adopt the right language and window dress their structures. The same predatory people, beliefs and practices remain in place."

 

 

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 Rabbi Jonathon Romain -"And in both cases – church cover-up or Haredi denial – lies a fear that if one particular person is exposed, then that will tarnish the rest of the group – whereas you and I know that colluding with a perpetrator – that’s what really tarnishes the group at large, while it also denies justice to the victim, which should have been the prime concern."

 

 

The above two speakers then responded to Questions from the floor

 

 

 

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  Pt Satish K Sharma - If I can paraphrase Goebbels "If you perpetrate abuse on a huge scale and keep repeating it, eventually people will come to accept it as NORMAL and no longer recognise it as ABUSE. Such abuse can only be maintained for such a time as the ABUSERS shield the people to the consequences of the abuse. It thus becomes vitally important for the BIG ABUSER to use all of its powers to repress dissent and enquiry, for dissent and enquiry are the mortal enemy of the BIG ABUSE.” Click here for the text of Satishji's speech.

 

  More information about the debate can be found by clicking here

 

 

 

 

Conversion and Reversion

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The Duplicity behind the Conversionary Agenda .... and not a Commandment in sight.

The topic of conversion has become centre stage in India – not because millions have been converted from their Hindu faith to Christianity and Islam in recent years, but because some 50 Muslim families came back to Hindu Dharma.

‘How dare Hindus do what only Christians and Muslims are entitled to?’ seems to be the motto. Strangely, not only representatives of the dogmatic religions and western mainstream media, including the New York Times, are outraged, but even Indians with Hindu names. Why would they bat for religions that require blind faith, and not for their own Dharma that is based on deep philosophy? The reason may be that many Indians are ignorant, when it comes to religion. They neither know their own tradition, as they have been to convent schools or grown up in westernized families, nor do they know the insidious effect of dogmatic religions as they never were insiders.

Since I grew up as a Christian, I may see clearer why the dogmatic religions depend on conversion and indoctrination to gain followers. The reason is simple: Suppose a community on some island is completely unconnected to the modern world. They will never become Christians or Muslims because they would need to be told a story about God sending his only son to earth 2000 years ago, etc. and then they would need to believe it blindly and get baptized. Yet if these islanders had wondered about the truth, they might have come to similar conclusions like Sanatana Dharma, as it doesn’t depend on some event in history. It only requires dedicated, deep enquiry into “That What Truly Is – Now And Always”.

Everyone, who learns about Christianity and Islam, will right away discover illogicality: both religions claim that they are the only true religion and all human beings have to follow it, and both also claim that the Creator of this universe has endorsed this claim. Now such claim would be of great consequence, if it were true. However, none of the contenders for the “only truth” provides any proof. To cover this up, they put forth an ingenious idea: “You will know that it is the truth when you are dead. After you die you will be rewarded with heaven for believing what we tell you.”
“And what if it is not true?” may someone have asked.
“What!! You doubt the word of God? You deserve to be put to death!” was the harsh answer given by both religious ideologies over many centuries.

So apart from dangling the carrot regarding the other world, they also used the stick in this world. The threat: “If you don’t believe what we tell you, you will be killed”, was not only the hissing of a snake. It was a deadly bite. Christianity stopped killing in the name of God only some 250 years ago and Islam is still at it, with ISIS or Boko Haram being examples of inhuman brutalities in the name of Allah.

Why would they do this? Do they really believe that it is God’s command? I don’t know. But I guess that ultimately it is about power and big money and not about “saving souls”, as claimed.

The strategy to claim divine approval for the demands of a small group had mind boggling results. After some 2000 years for Christianity and 1400 years for Islam, 2 billion human beings consider themselves as Christians and 1,5 billion as Muslims. Imagine, Christianity started with a small group in Palestine and later in Rome, and Islam started with a small group in Mecca and later in Medina. These huge numbers are no doubt extraordinary. However, it was paid for with a heavy price by countless individuals who felt not convinced by the dogmas and behavior of the clergy, but had to conform if they held their lives dear. Further, societies under the sway of Christianity and Islam were neither free, nor happy.

One’s own conscience needed to be suspended in favour of the religious doctrine. I learnt it in catechism class as a child: ”If there is conflict between one’s conscience and what the Church says, one has to follow the Church.”

This demand is serious and shows that not all is well with those religions. Is conscience, supported by sound reason, not our moral barometer? Is freedom of conscience not guaranteed in the Declaration of Human Rights? Is it not dangerous to demand suspension in favour of an ideology that may promote, apart from good, also unethical behavior? Should such ideologies that demand blind allegiance not be intensely scrutinized in the interest of humanity?

ISIS terrorists are a case in point. Have those youngsters no conscience? Or has it been silenced by the Quranic injunction to wage Jihad for Allah? They brush away any human feeling and justify their worst, violent instincts. Do they really believe they will be rewarded with paradise for slaughtering other human beings in whom the same one life and love is throbbing?

There are other features of the dogmatic religions that don’t stand up to scrutiny:

For example the claim that the creator – God or Allah – is watching us from ‘somewhere’. He (alleged to be male) is not our essence according to the dogmatic religions. To claim, as Indian traditions do, that the cause/ creator is permeating the whole universe, and we are in our innermost being one with That, is considered heresy. Several Christian and Muslim mystics were killed for expressing their experience of being one with the Whole.

Another doubtful claim is that human beings have only one life, and on the basis of this one life, eternity will be decided – either heaven or hell. Simply by reasoning, this seems unlikely. Then there are many cases (over 3000 are documented in the archive of the University of Virginia, USA.) where persons remembered their past life and gave details about their previous life that nobody could know. Moreover, the law of karma makes much more sense when it is stretched over many lives.

Another point is the attitude towards animals and nature. Man is considered as the crown of creation and the rest is there for his service. It is clearly a harmful attitude and the west is in the process of changing it. Butchering animals on a daily basis by the millions can’t be the ‘right’ of man. It demeans him. Vegetarianism is, at least in theory, seen as a solution to many problems.

Extremely harmful is also another attitude: Arrogance towards those, who don’t belong to one’s religion, as they are damned by the Highest himself. “Don’t think about truth” is told to children and adults. “Man can never know the truth. God had to reveal it and he has revealed it only in the Bible”, claims Christianity or “only in Quran”, claims Islam. And they assure their flock: “You belong to the chosen ones. You are very lucky”.

Unfortunately, this claim caters to a weakness in human beings. Who doesn’t like to feel superior to others, and more so, when it is divinely ordained? Further, to belong to a big group of like-minded people gives a sense of strength. The only requirement is ‘blind faith’ in return. It may seem a small price, but it is huge. It undermines one’s integrity and humanness.

Christianity stopped killing those who dissent with the dogmas of the Church, but “conversion” of heathen is still considered the sacred duty of every good Christian. Muslims, too, have to bring the whole world to worship only Allah and obviously, the agenda is still unfinished. “Conversion” has necessarily an element of coercion – allurement, deception or threat – because believing unverifiable claims as absolute truth does not come naturally. Both religions didn’t grow to those huge numbers by convincing arguments, as there are no convincing arguments. They grew by conversion and by indoctrination of small children born to those who were converted. Every sane, liberal person should welcome a ban on conversions by coercion.

Westerners are gradually getting out from the grip of forced Christianity. Theirs was a joyless religion and many are tired of it. They don’t believe anymore that only one way leads to truth; they consider rebirth as possible and become vegetarians. They are influenced by Indian thought and those who visited India are almost envious of the joyful, sacred atmosphere of spiritual India. Just attending for example Ganga Arti or Ramayana Parayanam induces automatically a feeling of awe, wonder and joy.

“We are all Hindus now” was the title of an article in Newsweek a few years ago that summarized the preference among many Americans for Indian insights that are based on reason and intuition, instead of blindly believing in Christian dogmas. This does not mean that those Americans stop praying to Jesus or won’t sing Christmas carols, but they don’t swallow the whole belief system anymore. They use their conscience and intelligence, and refuse to believe incredible dogmas, like that heathen go to hell. This means, they are more like Hindus.

Westerners become more Hindu and persons with Hindu names shout on Indian TV that Indians that were converted must continue to wear their straightjacket and must not be allowed to come back to their eternal, joyful Dharma. Further, these same persons have no objection that Christians and Muslims continue their conversion agenda by dubious means and plenty of money. The strangest thing: these people claim to be liberal, secular and progressive. Can someone please make them see light?

By Maria Wirth

Link to my article on Research on Rebirth http://mariawirthblog.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/born-again-in-another-form/

 

 

 

 

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